Which welder would be best to weld floor pans in a car?
I am looking at a few welders to see which would be best when restoring my 1980 Camaro. I know how to stick weld, but don’t know what the info means. Thanks.
CHP1919
Features:
•115V, 20 Amp input
•50-70 Amp output AC
•Consumes 0.063” and 0.078” rods
•10pct Duty cycle @ 70amp
•Welds mild and stainless steel from 18 gauge to 0.125”
•Includes hammer / brush, face shield, and starter rods
•Ground clamp and 72” cable
•1 Year limited warranty
•Dimensions: 10.25” H x 7.75” W x 15.25” D
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The Titan 41185 is a 90 Amp Gasless Wirefeed Welder. The Titan 41185 is an easy-to-use gasless flux-core wire welder for the beginner welder. The Titan Welder is perfect for light duty repairs, maintenance, and fabrication on light gauge steel around home, workshop, and the garage.
Features:
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Easy-to-use gasless flux-core wire welder for the beginner
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Perfect for light duty repairs, maintenance and fabrication on light gauge steel around home, workshop and garage
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Welds up to 1/8-Inch thick mild steel – not suitable for aluminum
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Operates on 120V single-phase power
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Amperage range: 60 – 90 amps
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Uses 0.030-Inch to 0.035-Inch diameter flux-core wire
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Thermal overload protector automatically shuts off welder when duty cycle is exceeded
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Fan cooled for better performance
What’s In the Box:
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Welding shield
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Welding hammer/brush
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Sample spool of flux-core wire
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Cold contractor MIG torch
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Welding cable
Thank you very much for any help. If neither of these will work, can you point me in the right direction? I just need the job done pretty, just done right. Thanks.
I am not planning on needing this welder for years, just need to get this job done before the rusting gets worse. In reality, it just has rust holes in the floor, which I am cleaning up, undercoating, then welding the new floor pans right on top of them. I can’t afford a $900 welder, and am just trying to find one that will get my job done.
I like the idea of a mig welder, and have used them before (Camp Lejeune metal shop on days off). Any recommendations for a welder, specific model that fits in my price range, seems like MIG is the way to go, that will get my job done?
And thanks for letting me know they were junk, cheap+walmart= almost always junk, but worth a shot. just trying to stay below $200. Thanks.
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They are both junk. Spend a little more and get something that will last for years, and you’ll be able to get consumable parts for. Stick welding is out of the question for that job, not that you couldn’t do it, it’s just not practical. Go with a mig. As a novice I recommend the Millermatic 140 with auto set. You can use gas or go flux cored, but I recommend gas for anything under 1/8″. It’s a little more expensive, but in the end it will save you a lot by doing the job right. It’s all to common for some body who bought one of the cheap machines to bring it in with a problem or just need consumables and they couldn’t find them. As far as the stick rods go the really small ones are getting harder to find, many manufactures have stopped making them.
You are interested in duty cycle. 10pct means 10 percent If you weld steadily(a long bead on the frame) you have 6 minutes of actual welding time for every hour. The rest of the time you have to wait for the welder to cool down so it will put out electrical current.
This is OK if you do a spot here and a spot there type welding but definitely not pipeline welding.
You want something with a high duty cycle. They will cost more but you are paying for horsepower(if you compare it to getting a car)
MIG Wirefeed is the way to go for sheet metal as there is less heat as compared to stick.
you need a mig welder or spot welder to do the job.
Sorry, but you aint going to get any welder that will do more than make a mess out of your car for $200 or less.
The flux core gasless welders are pure junk. Very hard to weld thinner metals like sheet, floor pans, etc. Has only 2 heat settings, low & high. Most are around 80 or 90 amp on high and 10 to 15 amps less on low.
I started at age 16 on a $90 wal mart CH brand flux core welder.. I hated trying to do any sheet metal work with it.
7 or 8 years later (when I had the funds) I bought a Hobart handler 140 amp mig for $485, and rented the argon gas bottle (a year later, I bought the bottle out right)
Mne has 4 heat settings, 1 is 25 amps, 4 is 140 amp. For floor pans you only want 25 to 45 amps, any more than that and you will blow holes right through the metal
I love that welder. I love welding with it and trust me, you say you won’t need or use it much, but once you have a GOOD welder you will look for things to use it on and it opens up a whole new world for you.
Here’s a few things I done with mine in the past 7 years or so…
floor pans, hood scoop, roll cage, tube chassis, rear end brackets, exhaust for 4 cars,, plus exhaust for 3 buddies that I charged, welding cart for the welder, 55 gallon drum grill, metal work table, fixed broke tools (wrenchs, etc), cut and shortened 2 driveshafts for 2 cars, my kids and I built 2 go karts, making the frames and all., Ladder racks for trucks, and thats just a small bit of the things.
Theres other brands of migs out there like clarke thats alot cheaper than a hobart, miller or lincon but you have to think.. Any tool your spending over 300 bucks on, you want it to last a long time.. With the higher end brands you kow they aint going anywhere… So 5, 10, 30 years down the road when the welder dies or something breaks on it.. You know you will still be able to get replacement parts and repair parts.
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